Released 01/07/26
Seasons, Scaling & Serving Owners
What season is your business—and you—really in? That’s the question at the heart of Dr. Fagan’s conversation with Bryan and Shannon Miles, Founders of Miles AG and O’nr Nonprofit. Drawing from their experiences leading multiple organizations, the Miles break down the four major seasons of business ownership: Hustler, Entrepreneur, CEO, and Owner. They discuss how leaders can recognize the signs of each phase, avoid burnout, build culture affordably, and develop themselves as much as they develop their organizations. This episode feels like a masterclass in leadership mindset—with the warmth and candor listeners love from Because People Matter.
Episode References:
- Free Owner Resource Download — https://onr.kit.com/freeresourcedownload
- BELAY — https://www.belaysolutions.com
- O’nr — https://www.onr.org
- O’nr Documentary — https://www.onrdocumentary.com



