Released 03/01/26
Leading Without Armor
What happens when leadership demands strength while life demands honesty? Dr. Helen Fagan welcomes Kelly Ross, nonprofit leader and founder of ECHO Collective, to Because People Matter for an unfiltered conversation on the inner demands of female leadership, including self-talk, resilience, vulnerability, and showing up even when it’s difficult.
From entrepreneurship and community-building to empowering immigrant and refugee women through opportunity, Kelly shares what it means to lead with authenticity. This episode is a reminder that real leadership is built in relationship, and that building people up is not soft work. It is the essential work.
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Episode References:
- Helen Fagan and Associates — https://helenfagan.com
- Echo Collective — https://www.echocollectivene.org
- Obama Foundation — https://www.obama.org/programs/scholars/



