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Beyond the Startup Grind: Bryan & Shannon Miles on Seasons, Scaling & Serving Owners

Released 01/07/26

Seasons, Scaling & Serving Owners

What season is your business—and you—really in? That’s the question at the heart of Dr. Fagan’s conversation with Bryan and Shannon Miles, Founders of Miles AG and O’nr Nonprofit. Drawing from their experiences leading multiple organizations, the Miles break down the four major seasons of business ownership: Hustler, Entrepreneur, CEO, and Owner. They discuss how leaders can recognize the signs of each phase, avoid burnout, build culture affordably, and develop themselves as much as they develop their organizations. This episode feels like a masterclass in leadership mindset—with the warmth and candor listeners love from Because People Matter.

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Because People Matter

Because People Matter® is a podcast celebrating leaders who are harnessing the gift of human differences and creating inclusion while driving success in their organizations and communities. Hosted by Dr. Helen Fagan, each episode features interviews with individuals leading the way. If you’re ready to learn how becoming inclusive can impact your business or want to hear positive stories of impact, this is the podcast for you.

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