Released 01/21/26
Vulnerability, Growth & Emotional Intelligence
In this unique episode of Because People Matter, the tables are turned as Dr. Helen Fagan is interviewed by friend and writing mentor Cindy Conger about her newest book, Lead Like People Matter.
Together, they explore the deeply personal journey behind the book—from Helen’s early work in healthcare and higher education to her research in emotional intelligence, neuroscience, and inclusive leadership. Helen shares why vulnerability, humility, and courage are not “soft skills,” but essential leadership competencies in today’s complex world.
This conversation offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at the writing process, the power of self-awareness, and what it truly means to lead in a way that honors human dignity.
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Episode References:
- Helen Fagan and Associates — https://helenfagan.com
- Francie and Finch — https://www.francieandfinch.com
- The Bookworm — https://www.bookwormomaha.com



